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  JWs getting "Footloose" at the Kingdom Hall

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

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  2. bible

  i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.

  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.

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  Pete Zahut

  This song was from a movie about a bunch teenagers who rebeled against their religious bible thumping parents who out of concern for their kids morals and religious beliefs wouldn't allow them to have a high school dance.

  How ironic that a bunch of JW's are dancing to it and even moreso that they are doing it at the Kingdom Hall. Whooping it up...shouting and line dancing on the same platform where the Memorial is conducted.

  One time we had a 50's party at a rented hall and the Circuit Overseer got wind of it and at the following Circuit Assembly said we shouldn't have been imitating the world and honoring their celebrities, music and fads by dressing like them. We should have dressed like Witnesses in the 1950's engaged in the preaching work. (I kid you not!)

  We just rolled our eyes and walked off. Man....have things changed.
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  Not on JW.org: Canadian National Post; Jehovah's Witness Canadian Model CoCo Rocha interview

  by Balaamsass in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  scenecoco rocha is a devout jehovahs witnesslilian asante | jan 17, 2013 2:10 pm et | last updated: jan 17, 2013 5:20 pm et.

  more from lilian asante.

  dan steinberg/the associated presscoco rocha has revealed she is a devout jehovah's witness.

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  Pete Zahut

  It's ok to be part of the fashion world but God forbid a JW kid should ever go to college.
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  Did You Feel Guilty As A Witness Because Of Your Sexuality?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  did you feel guilty over your sexual feelings or actions, while you were a jw?

  the watchtower always wasnts people to feel guilty.

  i know of many witnesses that would pioneer or volunteer for something, as an act of penance for their sexual sins or desires, even if they were married!.

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  Pete Zahut

  I know of MANY Witnesses that would pioneer or volunteer for something, as an act of penance for their sexual sins or desires, even if they were married!

  It would have been the opposite for me. Whenever I felt extra sinful, my conscience wouldn't let me go from door to door, recommending my way of life to other people when I wasn't living it properly myself.

  The funny thing is, looking back....other than the occasional temper tantrum or cuss word, I never did anything to be ashamed of....but I sure felt like I did. Then I find out that a bunch of people I know, were living double lives while knee deep in organizational activities.
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  The epitome of cognitive dissonance

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is rare to get such a startling, sparkling, perfect example of this.. here is a snippet of a conversion going on at jwtalk.net regarding israel/gaza:.

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16268-peace-security-news/.

  every one who is in the world today and dies tomorrow is in line for a ressurection.this is their best way of being in the new world.

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  Pete Zahut

  If the wages of sin is death and if dying means one's sins are blotted out making one eligible for everlasting life, what's the difference if one dies of old age or of an ilness or at the hand of God at Armageddon ? By JW logic, death in any form is a punishment from God. If you die at Armageddon or beforehand, one way or another you've paid the wages of sin and should be resurrected.
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  thinking of leaving

  by justme67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.

  i was doing ok until about a month ago.

  we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.

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  Pete Zahut

  JustMe.....really?? a background check??? This is an all time low. It's as if they think they are rock stars or celebrities. I suppose in the JW world that's exactly what they are. They've lost touch with the real world. They are probably paranoid about encountering too much reality....perhaps a disgruntled former Witness or some situation where they are viewed as the ordinary people they are.

  The funny thing is, they think nothing of sending children and little old ladies out from door to door or standing on steet corners like sitting ducks for god knows who, to come along and do whatever they please to them. Missionaries and Bethelites have to rely o Jehovah as they face all kinds of unsavory situations ranging from tropical diseases, primative living conditions and serving in dangerous lands or neighborhoods.

  That comment about kids in school being "refuse" is typical. They say they have a love of their fellow man but in reality they distrust them, look down on them and view them as a nusience they have to put up with until God finally gets around to killing them.

  Take your time....be smart.....don't burn any bridges unecessarily.
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  Pioneering out of Peer Pressure.....there are worse things you could do.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MePOG81yMY
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  Heartwarming

  by Pete Zahut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/92932133208/preaching-to-rude-people-until-you-find-someone#sthash.vpamsbev.dpbs.

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  Pete Zahut

  This video may seem cute but when you think about it, you realize it is just feeding the martyr syndrome many JW's have. It makes them feel extra virtuous and improtant to think people are out to get them when in reality they hardly even realize they exist.

  All those householders in the video were likely friends of the JW kid who helped him make his video. In all my years of going from door to door, including in New York City, I never had anyone throw my literature down, throw something at me or even be remotely rude. If anything, most were very patient with the guy who came to their door, interrupetd their morning and out of the blue, started asking them personal questions about their beliefs and values.

  One day this kid will look back on this video and be embarrassed that he was so taken in by all of it and will realize that he was only parroting off pat phrases and one sided logic spoon fed to him by his parents or peer group. That's when the resentment will set in.
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  Heartwarming

  by Pete Zahut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/92932133208/preaching-to-rude-people-until-you-find-someone#sthash.vpamsbev.dpbs.

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  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/92932133208/preaching-to-rude-people-until-you-find-someone#sthash.vpamSBEV.dpbs
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  Pete Zahut

  I've read about individuals on this forum who would "pad" or completley fake their hours, or who were in charge of the monthly congregation report and altered the entire groups report in order to stay in the good graces of the Circuit Overseer.

  Then there's the whole business of having two people at the same door or an entire car group waiting in the driveway, all counting time while one person talks to an occasional householder. The whole thing is such a joke....don't waste your energy feeling bad about it. Sometimes it's enough just to get by as best you can.
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  Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN???

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that in every war or revolution, 'most' of the participants are men and young boys.

  aside from the occasional female suicide bomber.

  does this have something to do with their religion and/ or cultural traditions?

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  Pete Zahut

  It's ok to blame Men (who do most of the heavy lifting) for all the worlds problems but if you asked why it has always been men that have made most of the Scientific discoveries and Modern inventions that have benefited the world, you'd likely be considered a sexist.

  Men bad....women good.

  If you are wondering about Womens role in Historical Violence you can't forget:

  Catherine the Great, Queen Mary (bloody Mary), Queen Issabella of Spain ,Margaret Thatcher, Maria Theresa of Austria, Empress Elisabeth
  Queen Tamara of Georgia
  Joan of Arc
  Queen Elizabeth I
  Cleopatra
  Gudit
  Eleanor of Aquitaine
  Sikelgaita
  Wu Zetian
  Irene of Athens
  Trung Sisters
  Empress Matilda
  Tomyris
  Kahina
  Ana de Sousa Nzinga Mbande
  Raziyya Iltutmish
  Zenobia
  Hind al-Hunud
  Khawlah Bint al-Kindiyyah
  Boudica